April 13, 2014 at 7:12 am #16110
Just wondering how many brews the typical 6 kg gas bottle lasts for? Mine seems to only last for 6, does this appear low? Mainly use for draught, will the occassional bottling
ElzApril 13, 2014 at 7:54 am #16543bulkbuysParticipant
Yea I would think that is pretty low. I think I got 9 or 10 out of my last one and bottle the majority of the beer.April 13, 2014 at 8:06 am #16544
Mmmmm… . I thought it was low also. I have checked for leaks, bit none found. Could be i have the gas set too high. Normally have it set to 1.9 bar. I will experiment and set it lower this and future brews
ElzApril 13, 2014 at 2:09 pm #165457stallsbrewingnyParticipant
Well there are several steps in the WW process that use some additional C02 but here are the approximate keg dispensing uses based on various C02 bottle sizes. I will only dispense from Sixtels so I can’t comment on the bottle method. I have two tanks. One for the WW and one for the fridge holding the Sixtels.
JonApril 13, 2014 at 6:19 pm #16546tonycoxParticipant
Elz, we got almost 5 months from our first bottle with almost continuous brewing. The second one lasted a month but we worked out the push fit into the bottle was not pushed home fully.
Easy test is to make sure the control knob is set to X, turn the bottle off and check to see if the outlet pressure drops off over time.
Thinking of getting an adaptor for a sodastream bottle so we don’t get caught out again when its time to bottle.April 13, 2014 at 8:42 pm #16550
Hi Tony and 7stalls
By all accounts I am getting sub par use from the gas bottle. I will try turning off the gas today to see if the pressure holds. According to the table from 7stalls I should be getting 46 +/- brews from a bottle, based on a 15 lb bottle. As noted above I only got 6 brews. Maybe the seal between the bottle and the regulator was not tight enough (just over hand tight).
Thanks for the feedback.
ElzApril 13, 2014 at 8:51 pm #16551ninjakiwichrisParticipant
I was about to ask this same question, I have the older model soda stream only and can only really get one brew dispensed from on soda stream canister. That’s pour only too as the nifty bottling attachment won’t fit on my model either.April 14, 2014 at 4:05 am #16548AnonymousGuest
Hi. You should get 20-30 brews out of a 6 kg bottle. It depends how much you bottle and keg though and how much purging you do when bottling. But people who brew continuously can get 6 months or more out of a bottle. If you brew every 2 weeks it should last a year. So you must have leak if its lasting only 6 brews. Have a look for it. Cheers. IanApril 14, 2014 at 10:05 am #16549roger mellieParticipant
Im with Ian – I have a 4.5 kg fire extinguisher and I would expect to get 20+ brews from my bottle. I also dispense from my bottle and occasionally force carb for more bubbles.
I suggest you have a leak. A little squeeze bottle (doesn’t need to be spray bottle) with a couple of squirts of dishwashing liquid in – fill up with water – squirt over EVERY fitting, QD, valve, non return, gauge and you will find it it will bubble up no matter how small the leak.
I had a CO2 bottle once with a leaky valve stem on the actual cylinder so check every connection.
RMApril 14, 2014 at 8:24 pm #16547
Thanks for all the feed back. I have checked for leaks and there appears to be none. Fingers crossed all is now fine. At least other WW users can now know what to expect from their gas supply
ElzApril 16, 2014 at 10:48 am #16541joshdParticipant
after 12 months of solid brewing I get about 9 or 10 done using my WilliamsWarn supplied 4.5kg bottle, just the other day I got it refilled again for the 3rd time (it came full) in order to make my 31st beer
also, once the beer is fermented, carbonated and cooled I used to leave the gas control knob turned to the WW vessel in order to keep it pressurised and fully carbonated, but I have found this isn’t always necessary as the beer will or should hold its fizz as long as there is enough pressure evident (at least 15 PSI maybe?)
one other thought: with my regulator setup there is a little white plastic o-ring or washer that helps create a good seal between the reg and the bottle, which likes to fall out and roll away into pesky hard to find places when you take the reg off. Possibly if your’s is missing you might be losing gas?April 19, 2014 at 12:09 pm #16542
I did check the white washer and it was in place. I reckon I did not have it screwed tight enough, and there a slow slow leak. It seems that there is a bit of variance between brewers, some seeming to bet more bang for their gas. Maybe a lower setting?
Cheers ElzMay 2, 2014 at 8:15 pm #16552hacatanParticipant
I bought the WW in October 13, have just refilled the bottle at Tank Test Manukau 1st May for $65. Pretty much exactly 6 months and have brewed 16 times and bottled on 15 occasions (first brew all 23litres drunk on the first night) . I don’t think I have a leak but turn the cylinder off during fermentation, briefly on for clarification, then leave on for pouring/bottling. Suspect this new bottle will last longer as was pretty generous in charging the bottles with CO2 when bottling, drink the stuff so fast that oxidation is NOT going to be a problem! Most brews pressure is set at 1.5bar.May 3, 2014 at 2:51 am #16553avensgarthParticipant
I’d be interested to know what pressure you all maintain post fermentation?
When crash cooling
Prior to and during bottling
When dispensing from the tap
I’ve played around with a few different levels and seem to get ok results at 20PSI but wonder if that’s to high?
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